Wednesday, May 20, 2015

Automatic Tithing


The Mormon Church is working on setting up a new method of payment on line. Soon all Mormons will be able to pay tithing over the Internet. The church also made these news available in their official website “Church Approves Electronic Method to Submit Tithes and Other Charitable Donations.”   http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/first-presidency-approves-online-tithing-donations

Below you can see a “screen shot’ of the “Mormon Newsroom” site:

 

The Department of Finances of the Mormon Church declared that this new method of payment will simplify the donation process for church members and will reduce the work load of local leaders. The LDS Living magazine (church owned), also published the news: “Church Rolling Out New Online Tithing Payment System in 2015”.

 LDS Living states that in order to use this system, we should enter our bank account numbers and that this information will be saved for future transactions.  You can also use this system to pay fast offerings and to donate to the missionary fund. Here is the link: http://ldsliving.com/story/78780-church-rolling-out-new-online-tithing-payment-system-in-2015

While many members are happy about this change, some of us don’t think it is right the church has access to so much personal information like: birthdates, home addresses, e-mails, bank accounts, etc…

When my bank sent me a letter to let me know I could pay my bills on line I was very happy since this is the type of service I expect from a financial institution like a bank, but I was not expecting the same type of service from a religious institution. Instead of the Mormon Church having easier access to my money, I would have preferred that I could have access to the leaders in Salt Lake when there is a need to report abuse/bullying within the church and local leaders ignore our complaints/feedback.

In my opinion it is more important to solve church abuse/bullying than to improve tithing payments. Of course, this decision is not up to the members but to the leaders in Salt Lake in the church offices. If Mormon leaders really care about the welfare of those that are abused within the church, (sexual abuse, domestic violence, verbal and mental abuse, fraud, etc…) they could put a team together to investigate these issues that makes sure abusers are disciplined harshly/ are released from their callings,  and victims are protected. What about you dear reader? What do you prefer, to pay tithing on line or with envelope? Would you like to have access to your Mormon leaders in Salt Lake when there are serious church problems instead of the option of paying tithing on line? Something to think about…

 

Friday, May 8, 2015

The Story about the Fence and Church Bullying


First, I want to start by saying I wanted to use my real name and the names of all the people involved, but I realized I could expose myself to a possible lawsuit from the LDS church.  Why? Because the LDS Church takes care of their leadership’s image and reputation even if they are bullies. The LDS Church has money, power and lawyers and I don’t have money or lawyers, so here I am, with a story to tell but because of fear, I cannot disclose any names until I move far away from Utah. I feel pathetic because I am afraid of my church. Yes, because I am still a member. What kind of person belongs to a church they fear? And what kind of church causes fear in their members? Fear of excommunication? Fear of losing my job? Fear of losing friends over church? Fear of being bullied by LDS leaders again? Fear of having my reputation damaged? Yes.
This is a short version of my story:
Back in October 19th 2012, Bob, the Elders Quorum President in our ward, waited for my husband to arrive from work in the street. When my husband arrived home from work, Bob approached him in the street and started yelling at him. Bob was irate and rude. It was clear Bob came looking for a fight and that he was aggressive. Rose, his wife, observed the situation from their car that was parked in the middle of the road. Bob got in the car with her and they left. We were in shock that a priesthood leader in our ward was so aggressive towards us, especially since the man did not know us. We realized someone had given Bob false information about us. We were even more upset when we realized that the only people that had this information were the Relief Society President (Susan) and her husband, because the information was about an HOA incident, and Susan and her husband are in charge of the management company that works with the HOA in our ward. One of those incidents involved a broken FENCE. Only the maintenance company owners, Susan and her husband, knew about this fence, since they were the ones that fixed it, one year earlier.
One month after we were bullied in the street by Bob, we had a meeting at the bishop’s house with Bob, Susan and their spouses to clarify these rumors and false accusations. Susan and Bob did not want to talk about what happened at all. In fact, Susan did all in her power to change the subject a few times, which made things worse. Bob became aggressive again ad yelled at us again. We wanted to know the truth and verify what we already knew but it was not possible because Bob would not answer our questions. The bishop left the room because according to him: ‘We were all so contentious’. I went looking for him but he would not come back in the room. In the end, the bishop left his house. I suppose he did this because he was afraid I would look for him again. Yes, the bishop was afraid to be in the same room with all the people he chose himself to be leaders in the ward, so one more time, we were yelled at not only by Bob but by Susan’s husband and Bob’s wife as well, and our bishop did not move a finger to put order. In that moment we realized that we were unprotected in this ward and that we could not trust our local leaders. We realized these people could do and say whatever they wanted with no consequences. These Mormon/ bullies/leaders were untouchable. What can you do when you are bullied by your church leaders and your bishop thinks bullying is solved just by talking to the bully? You file a police report. That’s what we did. Otherwise we would have been unprotected in church and in our own home. If you are ever bullied by Mormon leaders, don’t expect the church to take your side or believe you. Don’t expect this church to do what is right. Just file a police report and protect yourself and your family because no one else will do it for you. If the bully was your bishop or your stake president, don’t feel sorry for them. It is more important that you are safe than your leader gets offended. I have learned this lesson very well and I hope others can learn from my experience and be safe.

But the story doesn’t end here. We were so naïve to think that if the local leaders were bullies, the stake leaders would be different, so we contacted the stake president in our area about this issue. Instead of releasing the bullies or putting order, the stake president questioned everything we said. He did not know us either but he was already taking sides with these bullies. He minimized everything we said like the bullying did not happen or like he did not believed us. He asked us to forget and forgive. The stake president said he will get in touch with us after talking with these bullies, but 6 months went by and he never contacted us again. At this point, tired of waiting, I contacted the area leader. In my mind I thought the area leaders would be different than the local and stake leaders. I expected the area leader to meet with us and release the bullies. But the area leader would not answer my calls, e-mails or letters. The area leader just sent me back to the stake leader who was siding with the bullies. I learned that following church policy is more important than helping people for LDS leaders. Unless you are popular like John Dehlin.
After months trying to fix things with the area leader, I decided to send a letter to the first presidency in Salt Lake City. I sent several letters that were answered by their secretary and finally, after 2 years of trying to communicate with all these leaders, we got a letter from the first presidency lawyer. The letter said they were so sorry we were ‘troubled waters’, and that we were so upset about ‘the broken fence.’
We were so upset about this stupid letter. Were the leaders careless or stupid? We were upset about being bullied in the street by church leadership, not about a broken fence. Nothing was mentioned in the letter about bullying. They talked about a broken fence that was fixed 1 year before Bob came to our home to bully us. It was obvious they talked to Bob and he made up this lame excuse. It was obvious the leaders believed Bob and did not make any attempt to contact us to verify Bob was telling the truth. Why? Because Bob was a leader and we were not. It was obvious the stake president transmitted this information to the area leaders, including the first presidency and they all chose to believe the stake president and Bob. At this point, we lost all trust and confidence in all the church leadership. We realized it was a waste of time to expect any justice or inspiration from any of these men. The only thing we could expect from them was letters from their lawyers with wrong information on it.
Finally, we sent pictures of the “fence” showing it was fixed and also sent e-mails showing the request that was sent to repair the fence with the dates to prove the fence had nothing to do with or complaint. However, the leadership in salt lake would not answer any of our questions about this “convenient miscommunication.’ It was not until I had a second interview with the stake president, almost three years later, that the stake president acknowledged the information about the fence was wrong. But he did this only after we sent the evidence by mail to the LDS Church headquarters in Salt Lake. He had no other option. However, no one never wanted to tell us who gave the LDS Church lawyer this information. The stake president said he didn’t know either. It was obvious that the LDS church and their leaders withheld this information from us on purpose to protect the image of these bullies/leaders.
After this terrible experience with LDS Church leaders, I realized that local leaders in this area were a reflection of the leaders in Salt Lake City and of church policies. They were not an isolated problem like I thought in the beginning. I started questioning the LDS Church and their leaders. I started learning things about the church that I didn’t know and I was able to see that the way the LDS church handles problems like this one or any type of conflict, is pretty much the same. It’s all about church policies that protect the church and the leaders at the expense of regular members. I will explain this in future comments. The way the LDS church handles conflict can be seen in all the church dealings. It is more than church policies. It is part of LDS Church culture of intimidation, bullying and concealing/twisting information to make the church and bad leaders look good. Now, every day I learn little by little the truth about my church. So far, what I have learned have influenced my decision to not go to church anymore. I will share with everyone my discoveries and we’ll see if I go back to church or I leave forever.


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